Listen: The United States and the Rules-Based Order

In this episode of Lowy Institute Conversations, Lowy Institute Director of Australia’s Security and the Rules-Based Order project, Ben Scott, sits down with Stacie Goddard, Mildred Lane Kemper Professor of Political Science and Faculty Director of the Madeleine Korbel Albright Institute for Global Affairs at Wellesley College, and Michael Mazarr, Senior Political Scientist at RAND Corporation, to discuss the United States and the rules-based order. Professor Goddard and Mr Mazarr also joined four other experts in an in-depth debate on America's role in the rules-based order in a new digital debate feature, published by the Institute this week.

Conversations is a new Lowy Institute podcast in which Institute experts and some of the world’s leading thinkers delve into the big issues in international affairs, foreign policy and geopolitics.

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